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Post by delmayj on Jan 2, 2018 20:59:23 GMT
I know in BAFTF that these are listed as judgements, beliefs and opinions but find that using the JOB acronym is easier. I like to remind myself about working on my JOBs, especially because I tend to be a judgemental and opinionated person.
My most challenging JOBs revolve around money, health and ageing but now that I've read BAFTF many times I'm able to catch myself thinking JOB thoughts. Before reading this book, I had a lot of JOBs that I thought automatically and never questioned. I'm really glad to be aware of them now!
What are your challenging JOBs, and how are you doing with them?
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Post by kju on Jan 6, 2018 17:15:56 GMT
Like most I suspect — it ultimately all comes down to money logic. So many tendrils to unplug, detach from, false-positive rationale to distill. But you can rest assured in knowing that if your ego says it's not possible that's only another opportunity to leap forward and lighten the mental load.
If you stare long enough into the abyss, the abyss will stare back into you.
If my “Infinite I” would have provided me with the type of money fear experiences I'm distilling today it would have likely destroyed me as a player. I mean, the early days of my cocoon I was afraid to check the mailbox. In an instant, one day, literally, lost thirty years of fervent for my career. It felt as if I'd lost all passion to work and produce surplus in support the industrial model in any form. It was like something unplugged me and there was no way to plug back in. So for me there was never this deliberative event causing me to exit the theater until after the fact. I was drug out of Plato’s Cave kicking and screaming, objecting and cursing. I was thrown out on my ass; door to the cave disappeared. And I just accepted that once outside, more terrified than ever. I haven't really worked in nearly ten years now and there has never been a dull moment I can say that.
This is why I surmise the Infinite I model works so thoroughly. Mainstay spiritual practices make promises they can't keep because at the very heart they idealise the core values of theater beliefs which still maintain and celebrate the moral socio-economic order. In the II model this is the very thing one attacks and dismantles. The butterfly model is for obvious reasons quite radical. Like explosive demolition of an old skyscraper is so instantaneously clear once the charges are detonated. There's no wondering after the fact what the effort was intended to produce. That's how scrutiny of a belief works. That's why there's no turning back. You scrutinize using the model and instantaneously realize making any attempt at reconstructing delusion will only result if further decay. So it's easy to keep moving forward and remove the debris bit by bit, belief by belief.
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Post by delmayj on Jan 8, 2018 4:08:55 GMT
Thank you very much for your reply!
Since I read Robert Scheinfeld's Busting Loose From The Money Game a few years before I discovered BAFTF, I think it helped prepare me to see the exit at the back of the theater. However, I don't know if I'm quite ready to shut the door completely behind me. I still have experiences that feel real and make me react and therefore need to be processed.
As for work, I haven't had a regular job years either. I've helped friends here and there with various projects but that's it. Like you, I have no interest in plugging back into the money system.
I really like what you said here:
Although I have virtually zero interest in the moral socio-economic order I am still interacting with people who do, and find myself either pretending to still be interested or changing the subject when it comes up in conversation. But luckily most of my friends are equally uninterested so that's been nice. One of them even read the first few chapters of BAFTF because of my interest but admitted she's not ready to make the commitment to exit the theater yet.
This afternoon I went out to lunch with an old acquaintance and several of her friends, and since I was dreading the question of "So what do you do?" of course it came up. So I just said that I was between jobs and mentioned the last work project I helped with.
It's been my experience that Americans are obsessed with work and their place in the moral socio-economic order. Europeans tend not to be. It was refreshing when I went to Italy and not one person asked what I did for a living; they asked me what subjects I was interested in.
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Post by kju on Jan 8, 2018 18:32:00 GMT
You are very welcome.
Outside of the theater mentality way of presenting yourself, you just tell it as it is and let chips fall as they may. In other words tell the current story of you like you actually want people to see through your mask.
The questions you dread are the ones I luv to be asked. I've discovered so much support coming from people in just being honest with them about how I feel about myself and what makes me tick. Ones ego is fragile. The truth is unassailable.
It is my impression that if a person has begun scrutinizing the morality of the theater as it sounds like you are its just a matter of time before you slip on the proverbial banana peel and begin peeling that ego onion.
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Post by delmayj on Jan 9, 2018 6:38:00 GMT
You sure have a way with words kju. My ego onion is indeed in need of copious peeling. But I'm scared of peeling too much off, because there's a lot of fear underneath. Worrying about what people think of me, how am I presenting myself? I agonized over what happened yesterday. I guess it's a type of hangover that comes after forcing myself to be a certain way in social situations. I make myself be a good listener. I'm good at it and it keeps me from having to talk/expose myself.
A couple of quotes from BAFTF come to mind:
"Keep peeling away layers of an onion and what do you have when you get through? Nothing. It isn’t that you peel away the layers and finally get to the onion. You get to the no-onion. The same thing is true for the self. After peeling away all the layers of the ego, you get to… no-self."
"So you can stop working so hard trying to control your life, trying to “make things go right,” trying to create and manage the holographic images that make up your reality and your life. It’s not possible, it’s a waste of time, and it will wear you out and leave you thinking you’re a failure."
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Post by kju on Jan 9, 2018 16:14:56 GMT
You can run the process on the hangover. But you'll go nowhere with it while you're in the theater - but round and round with the rest of the herd.
In truth now, you must have a valid and sincere reason for exiting the theater. Becoming a butterfly isn't a sustainable reason. Most seek escapism, not evolution.
The next step is indeed a harsh piece of personal business. You won't solve anything on this level. You've got to move to the next one — Jed Mckenna
That's the exit door. That's where you can get real with yourself. That's where real change can occur.
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Post by delmayj on Jan 10, 2018 19:17:36 GMT
I just got Spiritually Incorrect Enlightenment: Book Two of The Enlightenment Trilogy and will start reading it and making my way out of the exit door of the theater. Sigh. Hahaha!
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Post by kju on Jan 14, 2018 1:05:08 GMT
See, or hear from ya in six months.
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